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Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•For the fans who witnessed the really bad seasons in the 90’s, is this years team even worse than those years?English1·2 years agoA great QB certainly helps. But what we have is light years away from an even mediocre QB. A mid level QB that’s capable of playing really good with a solid team around him might be enough. We have a terrible QB, an O line that is close to terrible when it comes to pass blocking and a receiving corp that only recently graduated from terrible because of a 6th round rookie. When taking into the era they play in, this team is worse than the bad Patriot teams of the 80s & 90s.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•How much of the Patriots's situation Mac Jones's fault?English1·2 years agoI’d say about 75%. He’s not physically gifted: a weak arm by NFL standards and he’s never been a running threat. His biggest asset was supposed to be cerebral. He was supposed to be able to quickly read defenses and make good decisions, even if that good decision was throwing the ball away. So the QB with a noodle arm that can’t run whose strength is from the neck up, is toast from the neck up.
Before we get into the different coaches, keep in mind that with all 3 it’s been the same system. On top of that, two out of those three have proven track records for being good OCs. If Mac is broken because of the coaching carousel he’s to fragile for the NFL to begin with.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•Mac Jones sends clear message to Bill Belichick: "I really want to be the quarterback here."English1·2 years agoLots of people want to be an NFL QB.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto NFL@nfl.community•2024 NFL Draft order: Bears still have two top-5 picks despite win vs. Vikings; Pats in line for game-changerEnglish1·2 years agoSadly, it’s not intentional. They really are that bad.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•With the 2nd pick in the draft currently,I can't be the only one....English1·2 years agoThe trade down for a bounty of picks wouldn’t be scary if there was any reason to believe BB could still spot talent, but he can’t.
Another WR bust? BBs best evaluation gave us Harry & Thornton. Studs up front? Best he could find was a subdivision player that continues to demonstrate he cannot pass block at an NFL level. Special teamer? We’ll have to make do with undisciplined players and a kicker than can’t hit chip shots when the pressure is on.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•The next coach and GM need to have a guarantee 3-4 guaranteed years) that they will be given time to implement and developEnglish1·2 years agoAnything is possible but I don’t think BB will accept someone else having final say. The job title really doesn’t matter, it’s the capacity/empowerment that counts.
How bad was Pop injured?
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•2024 Patriots 4 Round Mock Draft With TradesEnglish1·2 years agoMac isn’t that good and everyone knows it.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•What do we actually need to be competitive again?English1·2 years agoWe need an offense.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•Patriots Mock Draft but how to fix our franchise going forwardEnglish1·2 years agoIf they take Caleb one of 3 things is going to happen.
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His father pulls an Elway/E. Manning move and demands they trade him.
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He gets battered behind the terrible O line and is more shell shocked than Mac halfway through his rookie year.
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He gets battered behind the terrible O line and suffers a season ending injury (possibly career ending) halfway through his rookie year.
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Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•What makes you guys so sure Belichick will not take a punter at #3English1·2 years agoHow do I know Bill won’t take a punter? Because of PJ Flywood. Flywood is a left handed long snapper at Division 3 School Concord Poly Technical Institute that played Lacrosse in High School.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•All of you hoping a draft pick will save us, needs to (for once in your life for some of you) look at this with tempered reasonEnglish1·2 years agoThe Patriots are light years away from 1 draft pick making a difference.
1 WR? He’ll need somebody to get him the ball. 1 QB? He’ll get shell shocked and end up with PTSD behind our O line. 1 Lineman? Who did you want him to replace, Onwenu whose not getting resigned or Strange who can’t pass block in the NFL? Keep in mind David Andrews is going to be 32 years old and the only reason why there’s no press coverage of how much his effectiveness has dropped off is because everyone else is worse. His alleged replacement Jake Andrews (no relation) has yet to see a snap not on special teams. 10 games into his rookie year and the coaches don’t think he’s ready to take 1 regular season snap with the starting offense or even garbage time. (and there’s been plenty of garbage time opportunities this year).
The Patriots are at least half a dozen well seasoned, effective NFL Offensive side of the ball players away from being a competitive NFL team.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•All of you hoping a draft pick will save us, needs to (for once in your life for some of you) look at this with tempered reasonEnglish1·2 years agoEye Ken spell, sew what?
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•Has Bill O’Brien simplified the offense too much?English1·2 years agoNot sure how much simpler it can get. Only throw the ball to people wearing the same clothes as you seems to be to complicated for Mac.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•This team has not had a plan since Brady leftEnglish1·2 years agoThey definitely didn’t have a plan after Brady left.
IIRC we signed Cam during camp or a week prior. Important to note, he was coming off an injury and it was site unseen. Whatever they thought of Stidham wasn’t very much. Late that same season, after the Patriots had been eliminated, BB still didn’t give Stidham enough of look to see if he’d even be good enough as a backup. Pretty sure Belichick already knew he wasn’t even good enough to be a 2nd stringer.
Remember, Brady made it known before the start of the 2019 season it would be his last in New England. Plus, he’d been hinting about finishing his career elsewhere for a few years. So, Belichick had minimum 1 full calendar year where he absolutely knew, and warnings for a couple years, that Brady was leaving and yet he was completely unprepared it.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•Tom Brady could be open to coming out of retirement to replace Mac Jones, per Charissa Thompson.English1·2 years agoWould Drew Bledsoe consider being the backup to Brady?
I was never a Mac apologist. However, when our O line was the worst in the league and our WRs were equally as bad I did think he deserved the benefit of the doubt. I stand by that opinion, that is to say he deserved it at the time. There was literally no QB that could be effective at the time.
But that time has passed. He kept playing so apparently got that benefit. Our O line and WRs have improved. Still not very good, but notably better than they were. Saying Mac is still not effective is understating it. He’s playing terrible. He’s as bad as ever even though the team around him no longer is among the league worst.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•We are having a rough season but it could be worse…English1·2 years agoThe Bills bring their misfortune on themselves by misidentifying their team name.
As we all know animal teams just aren’t as good as people teams. Throughout the Superbowl era all the great dynasties are people teams; Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Patriots and now the Chiefs
Anonymous but completely reliable sources have indicated that the Bill in their team name refers to no other than Buffalo Bill himself, William Cody, making them a people team. Yet rather than using this unparalled advantage the Buffalo football team uses a male bison as their logo, relegating them to the destiny of an inferior animal team.
Impressive-Cry-9128Bto New England Patriots@nfl.community•The moment Mac Jones Career took a turn, December 18, 2021English1·2 years agoIt’s a combo. With the right footwork and throwing mechanics a QB can put more zip on the ball and throw it stronger. Some QBs just have an absolute cannon for an arm and can put a lot on it even w/o good mechanics, Josh Allen comes to mind.
By NFL standards Mac has a weak arm. He needs perfect or at least near perfect throwing mechanics to be even a marginal QB.
and Harry could at least block