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  • Aurelion sol is the obvious pick (his E doing the whole map and executing 100%). Now if we remove him, we include gathering storm which is quadratic scaling, all champions become incredibly broken and it’s league of oneshots. Gathering storm outscales all linear scalings, your Sion is getting oneshot. I think Thresh too.

    If we include heartsteel which is exponential scaling (yeah I know title isn’t about this but still), it outscales any champion that doesn’t have %max health, scaling with AD or AP. Champions who have % health AD or AP ratios (Gwen, Udyr, Evelynn, Kayn, Fiora, etc) become incredibly broken because they’ll get 100% max health damage. Tahm Kench also gets an infinite AP ratio on Q and deals the most damage in the entire game on neutral monsters.

    A few champions also happen to scale resistances infinitely (and since heartsteel is exponential, they go far beyond thresh) with their AD/AP (buffed by titanic or demonic) : Jayce hammer form, Jax under ult, Gwen under mist, which kind of counters %health damage that is not true.

    Shojin is capped on cooldown reduction (I’m very sad).
    A few champions gain infinite scaling movespeed though (Kayle, Shyvana, maybe I’m missing some)


  • Yeah I don’t know. Some champions have been overpowered for a while and the excuse has always been “but they’re hard to master and you need to reward them”.
    I mean fine, but when said champions have 0 counterplay (and by that I don’t mean hurrdurr trynda no counterplay, I mean actual competitive champions with great laning, scaling, sustain, that are immovable in lane and incredibly strong otherwise, that you can’t beat alone except if they make glaring mistakes), where do you draw the line? When do you realize they’re just overpowered?

    While I get that there’s limits to “every champion should be balanced around proplay” because Master Yi having 95% winrate in low elo is a problem, I don’t mind some champions having 45% winrate in normal play because they’re incredibly broken on skilled users.


  • Everybody knows FH has always given an AS slow aura, and randuins has had several iterations with crit reduction, 30% is pretty big I will admit.

    That being said, we’ve seen times where tankmelting was less powerful and frozen heart had 110 armor, thornmail had 100 armor and a %dmg reflection, randuins with 70 armor, 400 health, 20% crit reduction and 15% attack speed cripple. And these weren’t even overpowered at all at the times because they were more expensive, clearly it’s not about weakness, but about Riot’s decision that armor items should be cheaper but less powerful overall.If I remember correctly part of their motivation was to have supports be able to afford some of these items.


  • It’s not about buffing armor. It’s about having the option to get a kinda bad item that is really slot efficient but gold inefficient just for fantasy purposes because the “really high expensive armor item” niche is empty. This will only slightly be game changing at 6 items if you have excess gold you can replace a cheap efficient item like frozen heart by this, but it really wouldn’t be the end of the world to have 30-40 more armor at 6 items when carries are really damn strong and tankiness is outscaled.

    Think about heartsteel, it’s always been pretty bad, Jak’sho has pretty much always been a better option for pure tankiness. But it gives a scaling fantasy and makes you happy for a little bit (before you realize the enemy evelynn does 125% max health damage with 70% magicpen or something like that, you know the drill). A high number doesn’t mean an overpowered thing.






  • SoAny champion with Heartsteel and Titanic, sunfire or demonic embrace can technically infinitely scale damage and health.

    But if you’re looking for champs who naturally infinitely scale inside of their kits, you have :

    - Sion (top)- Veigar (mid/adc/supp)

    - Bard (supp)

    - Thresh (supp)

    - Senna (adc/supp)

    - Aurelion Sol (mid)

    - Belveth (jg)

    - Cho’gath (top/mid/jg)

    - Kindred (jg)

    - Swain (top/mid/supp)

    technically Shyvana with drakes giving her definitive armor and MR but that’s really low and you need to get the drakes.

    From what you said, I think Veigar, Aurelion and Cho’gath seem the most accurate to what you’re looking for