this is exactly the number i’ve been saying IQ would go after

so many value-geeks in this sub want to act like we can keep him on a steal

not gonna happen. we either pay IQ $30+/yr and roll with a 5 guard rotation, or we trade him

time to face the music

he isn’t going anywhere, unless the knicks plan to fire thibs and abandon the system they’ve been building for ~3 yrs

the whole strategy is forcing teams to beat them with outside shooting and basically make the paint a black hole

which is why i think the most likely outcome of this season is we trade 2 guards + picks for a forward

there’s no way to do that trip cheaply

But for me i don’t actually care if we win. Seriously, were not gonna win the the championship, we are one tier lower than championship teams.

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that’s a weird take bro. you don’t care about wins unless it’s a championship team?

that’s gonna be a strong disagree from me. i’ve endured 20+ yrs of knicks being the clowns of the league—i’m down with being a competitive playoff team that’s building something special

imo, if you don’t ride when times is hard—you don’t get to celebrate with us when we hold up a trophy

same same

i’m not a hater—this is a fun team and we’re gonna go to the playoffs consistently

but my point is that it’s much easier to get the most out of watching and being a fan if you just accept julius for the player he is and stop expecting him to carry us to a championship

wdym, don’t the players get a bunch of money if they win?

it would be even funnier if he was an all star this yr

“but i don’t like watching him”

bring JR smith away from his NCAA golf career to be the head coach

sign ray felton to a 5yr max

etc

exhausted from the ups and downs with him

okay but put it in perspective. the knicks haven’t been a consummate playoff team in decades. the reason everyone in this sub is clowning on the randle haters is bc they don’t seem to be able to just enjoy the fact that the team is good even tho JR is inconsistent

in other words, it doesn’t really matter if julius isn’t your favorite knick. you can still enjoy the games, or endure 1 loss without spamming the sub

I’d love for Julius to be HIM

see this is the problem right here. julius isn’t, was never, and will never be him

many players have been 3rd team all nba without being him

i don’t think the schedules get added to bc of the tournament

p sure they fit the tourney into pre-existing matchup counts

so my guess is it stays 4

yeah i mean, it isn’t completely working but it’s what the plan is. IQ is playing better right now—he’s also getting more favorable matchups half the time

but the reality is we’re winning most games and we have one of the best defenses in the league. so we can nit-pick QG’s individual performances all we want, but he’s one piece of the puzzle

he starts for his defense, not his offense

just sayin. IQ subs him out for the offense, grimes’ primary objective is to prevent 2s from exploding in the first quarter

aight dr. phil

yeah i think you’re right, although i don’t think it’s a conscious change that Julius himself made

i think what happened is that smarter coaches realized he isn’t good at reacting to double teams or press out D

when teams sag off him or let him iso, he torches them—that’s what made him an all-star

but sadly, he does not have the Lebron gene of being able to ignite his teammates and make good passes out of the double or press up. his first instinct is to, like you said, box up (even from the 3) and back down

wastes time, exposes his mid handle, and makes all the doomers on this sub lose their minds

i’m seein the same thing tho

miss me with bridges and hayward, dog what

we’re not doing lateral moves that make us 5% better

i think the reason we haven’t pulled the trigger on anything yet is because we’re trying to build a market for julius. the front office probably can see that he’s not the right fit in this system

IMO: we could bundle julius, fournier, either IQ or QG, and picks for 1 max player (under $50mil). meaning we’re only gonna deal with a team that has a superstar.

there’s no point in adding upper mid-tier beef to this team because we can’t sign everybody. fournier’s contract is up and we need to trade him. we need to trade IQ or sign him. etc.

a sensible take?

g t f o

give up on the team after 1 loss—that’s true fandom

yo i was cold stumped at “the first knick to wear number 0” wtf

Stephen A. stop trolling