Rotund rap legend Stan Van Gundy has coached for four different NBA franchises.

The Miami Heat are the only team that seemingly moved on after their divorce: winning multiple titles since. The other three still haven’t foot their footing – at least on the offensive side of the ball.

The Detroit Pistons fired SVG in 2018 after a brief attempt to stay competitive with an aging Blake Griffin. Since then, the Pistons have been in a rebuild mode. Their offense and their spacing has been particular bad during those years. Their offensive ratings are as follows.

2018-19: 21st in offense

2019-20: 21st

2020-21: 26th

2021-22: 28th

2022-23: 28th

2023-24: 22nd

Those are some ugly numbers, albeit some expected for a team in a teardown / rebuild mode.

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic’s rebuild has taken quite some time. Similarly, they still haven’t registered a top 20 offense since SVG got the boot all the way back in 2012.

2012-13: 27th in offense

2013-14: 27th

2014-15: 27th

2015-16: 21st

2016-17: 29th

2017-18: 25th

2018-19: 22nd

2019-20: 23rd

2020-21: 29th

2021-22: 30th

2022-23: 26th

2023-24: 27th

The offense and spacing still hasn’t clicked for Orlando yet, but there’s plenty of optimism on the horizon. Their defense is # 1 in efficiency right now and young stars Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner have the team in the playoff hunt.

The last time that Stan Van Gundy coached was a brief stint with the New Orleans Pelicans. And the team barely avoided this same streak. They’ve been bottom ten in offensive rating the last two years (21 and 21), but barely made the top 20 the year prior with a sparkling # 19 offensive efficiency rating.


note: top offense is measured based on offensive efficiency points per 100 possessions and taken from basketball-reference.com

  • DrTomB
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    1 year ago

    I mean, the Pistons have only had two 500 or better teams since 2008. Hard to put that blame on one dude who was there for four years.

  • GilbertArenas0000B
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    1 year ago

    i miss stan van gundy’s rants during interviews about lebron being the goat lol. lebron is definitely top 5 but the order is MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Lebron.

  • Impressive-Theory-27B
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    1 year ago

    I mean isn’t it more that, recently anyway, both the pistons and the magic have drafted guys who can’t really shoot, or just haven’t turned out that great

  • Turk0luuB
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    1 year ago

    Nah for the Magic it was more hiring 30 year old Rob Hennigan to be their GM. He tried, but when put under pressure ruined the team for the past decade.

    Our new GM isn’t perfect but given what Hennigan did I can admire that he is willing to take his time and let players grow.

  • agk927B
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    1 year ago

    SVG was horrible and put us in this mess to begin with. I hate that guy. I will never go back. I know we are awful but there’s no point in going 39-43 every year. It’s meaningless

  • lilb1190B
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    1 year ago

    I guess that’s the curse of firing stan?

  • ChannelNeoB
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    1 year ago

    It’s because we stunk as organizations during those times, not just personnel but front office decisions too. It’s more than a coach leaving

  • tarunpopoB
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    1 year ago

    Stop bro the pistons already suck enough, I don’t need to be reminded that he ruined the franchise even more with the Blake trade and everything he’s done. That and troy weaver not getting any assets for our old players at all.

    Fuck bro the pistons have no future, none of the guys develop unlike other teams where they seem to be instant hits

  • NewBuddha32B
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    1 year ago

    He left us a dumpster fire of bad decisions he made with us. Literally just now getting to base levels of talent and getting out from under bad contracts. You dont want to know how long josh smith was on the cap sheet after we cut him.