Lets be real. JDG was the only true threat to T1 from the LPL and the fact they were able to take one game that couldve been a series, but T1 were playing like madmen so they absolutely stood no chance especially when Oner was out smiting Kanavi that series. Also idk the drafting for JDG was weird as well.

There’s a lot of luck in the draw. Sure, I do think T1 and JDG were the best 2 teams at Worlds, certainly by the time semis came around.

But no. T1 vs JDG was NOT the “actual final”. What a silly question.

We just extremely unlucky with draw.

Knockouts draw is designed in the way that one part of the map will always have 2 3:2 teams. First they split Gen.G and JDG. Then they match them each to one 3:2 team. Then the remaining 3:2 team they add to pool of 3 3:1 teams and draw them. It means that at least one pair 3:1 vs 3:2 is guaranteed and always one part of the map will have 2 3:2 teams.

Overall it shouldn’t be a big problem, but this year it all were fucked once NRG got WBG. So we not only have 2 3:2 teams at one side, we also have a fking NRG at the same side. The chance that this draw will happen was like 1/9. Only 11% that NRG will be matched with WBG and here we are.

Simple addition of rule “no rematches in 1/4” would already change everything. If we imagine, that for example LNG vs NRG are drawn into Gen.G/BLG side of the bracket and T1 with WBG assigned to JDG/KT, then draw will be waaaaaaaaaaaay better and equalised.

More to this, overall there were 72 possible draws, 36 unique one multipled by 2 as they can be mirrored (if you just simply mirror existing draw, it will count as a unique one due to different selection order but the same result). In 8 of them (4 unique) we have NRG vs WBG. In half of them, it is not a Gen.G but JDG are on the same side with WBG. For example, JDG-BLG, WBG-NRG. People will hate such draw but it was one of those 4 unique options (and 2 from 8 if we add mirroring) and free path for JDG to Finals. Second from those 4 was JDG-KT, WBG-NRG. Free JDG path to Finals. Third one was Gen.G/KT and WBG/NRG. It will guarantee LCK in Semis (highly likely Gen.G) and I think WBG would 95% lost in Semis to either KT or Gen.G.

At the end, only in **1 from 36** unique configurations of draw, we have not only WBG and NRG, but also Gen.G and BLG – such a unique configuration which can deny LCK from meeting WBG till Finals and putting LNG/KT/JDG/T1 in another side of the bracket.

We just got truly truly unlucky

I’ve been thinking about this a lot too haha. Obviously the official finals was WGB vs T1 but it feels like JDG put up a bigger fight.

Part of this has to do with there being two child node paths towards the finals and which teams are on which side of the tree. It’s only split in two and if you have strong teams on the same side then you’re going to get a rather depressing final because the biggest fights will happen on the way to the finals instead of at the finals.

Another reason is that there seem to be some triangles in terms of team vs team. An example would be GenG > T1 > WGB > GenG. These triangles make it so whoever gets a better draw will move to the finals. Had T1 versed GenG on the way to finals and lost, only for GenG to then lose to WGB when we saw what T1 did to WGB it’s hard to say who’s the better team when it seems that some teams might just have weaknesses exploited better by other teams.

And the last point is one that has already been made in the comments about single elimination, that you get one chance in tournaments like this and that’s it. On game day it’s do or die. It was said a lot on stream that WGB are a very volatile and inconsistent team. A funny small example was when TheShy outplayed Oner’s nocturne dive only then to walk back into Zeus for an aa + Q and die.

The point is it’s hard to measure teams against each other. Some are consistently decent and some are less consistent but have higher min/max. These tournaments are a mix of luck of the draw and the skill you have to deal with what you’re placed against.

In this case T1 was able to do it best.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot too haha. Obviously the official finals was WGB vs T1 but it feels like JDG put up a bigger fight.

Part of this has to do with there being two child node paths towards the finals and which teams are on which side of the tree. It’s only split in two and if you have strong teams on the same side then you’re going to get a rather depressing final because the biggest fights will happen on the way to the finals instead of at the finals.

Another reason is that there seem to be some triangles in terms of team vs team. An example would be GenG > T1 > WGB > GenG. These triangles make it so whoever gets a better draw will move to the finals. Had T1 versed GenG on the way to finals and lost, only for GenG to then lose to WGB when we saw what T1 did to WGB it’s hard to say who’s the better team when it seems that some teams might just have weaknesses exploited better by other teams.

And the last point is one that has already been made in the comments about single elimination, that you get one chance in tournaments like this and that’s it. On game day it’s do or die. It was said a lot on stream that WGB are a very volatile and inconsistent team. A funny small example was when TheShy outplayed Oner’s nocturne dive only then to walk back into Zeus for an aa + Q and die.

The point is it’s hard to measure teams against each other. Some are consistently decent and some are less consistent but have higher min/max. These tournaments are a mix of luck of the draw and the skill you have to deal with what you’re placed against.

In this case T1 was able to do it best.

T1 is the only team i see turn it up so much for worlds. They never seem to get worse from summer to worlds

T1 is the only team i see turn it up so much for worlds. They never seem to get worse from summer to worlds

Weibo is the worst team to ever make finals. The only other team you can argue is worse is 2018 Fnatic, but at least they beat IG twice in groups. WBG lost to G2, KT, and were extremely close to getting knocked out by Fnatic. They only beat western teams except for 1 BO5 win against BLG which went to 5 games. They are probably the worst eastern team at worlds. This is why we need double elimination.

Weibo is the worst team to ever make finals. The only other team you can argue is worse is 2018 Fnatic, but at least they beat IG twice in groups. WBG lost to G2, KT, and were extremely close to getting knocked out by Fnatic. They only beat western teams except for 1 BO5 win against BLG which went to 5 games. They are probably the worst eastern team at worlds. This is why we need double elimination.

With all due respect, I wish we could refrain from these type of posts. It’s why people hate our fanbase. We won in a wonderful fashion. Let’s celebrate our team rather than disrespecting the opponents. Weibo exceeded expectations this worlds and making finals is an achievement in itself regardless of how “easy” you think their road was.

At the end of the day, they took down BLG, who took down Gen.G, the LCK #1 who beat T1 all year long. Props to them and GG.

T1 was never 8k gold down in any game they won

T1 vs JDG was the closest series T1 played but it was still quite one-sided overall.