Stats from https://www.fantasylabs.com/nba/on-off/
| With both Pascal/Yak | Without both Pascal/Yak | With Pascal, No Yak | With Yak, No Pascal | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Minutes | 239 | 153 | 128 | 29 |
| Usage Rate | 20.6% | 28.2% | 24.9% | 31.5% |
| Net Rating | -0.2 | -8.7 | +14.3 | -24.0 |
| FG% | 51.2% | 37.7% | 55.2% | 47.1% |
| 2PT% | 57.3% | 43.1% | 56.8% | 43.8% |
| 3PT% | 40.6% | 29.4% | 50.0% | 100.0% |
| TS% | 59.7% | 45.1% | 67.0% | 56.0% |
| Points/Poss | 0.97 | 0.82 | 1.21 | 0.97 |
| AST% | 20.1% | 34.4% | 24.1% | 30.8% |
| FT Rate | 16.3% | 12.9% | 53.4% | 23.5% |
| 3PT Rate | 37.2% | 40.0% | 24.1% | 5.6% |
| Points/36 | 16.5 | 19.0 | 26.8 | 25.7 |
Thoughts?
The big caveat is that minutes with Siakam, Barnes, and not Poeltl tend to be when the other team goes small (or at least doesn’t have a traditional big starting center out there). And yeah, Siakam and Barnes should and do tend to torch those lineups.
I really liked the Barnes/Siakam/Achiuwa/Flynn/GTJ lineup we’ve seen occasionally. Looks like that unit has played a super-small sample-size of 9 minutes together, with five of those minutes coming last night. Net rating of +35, but again, the sample size. Nonetheless, it’s a great lineup to punish teams that can’t bring a mobile rim-protecting C off the bench.
I was so confused by all the Scottie vs Pascal shitposting on this sub until I accidentally saw this ESPN post talking about Pascal in the context of fantasy basketball. Then, it hit me: a lot of you dudes are fantasy “owners” of Barnes, so you naturally have a selfish interest in his counting stats. (OP, this isn’t about you personally.)
I actually feel a lot better about it now, but I do wish folks would contain their fantasy-based discussions to “Fantasy” flaired posts. Oh, but there isn’t a “fantasy” flair because this sub is supposed to be about the Toronto Raptors, not about that crap. I’m really not sorry that Pascal is stealing those precious shot attempts and points from folks’ fantasy totals.
The real question is whta are siakams numbers with barnes on/off
at the beginning of the season we had a Siakam + bench lineup. and that wasn’t working.
when the team started focusing more on Siakam because of his bad start, they started putting Scottie with that bench lineup instead.
Siakam gets to play with the more competent players but Scottie plays a good amount of time with the bench.
lately we’ve put OG with Scottie and that lineup which should help.
But I was never a fan of that Scottie + bench lineup.
Can someone please explain the idea that Scottie and Pascal don’t fit together?
I don’t think there’s been a point in Scottie’s career where he’s been better off playing without Pascal.
There is no real one, ppl on this sub are just silly. Ppl see both are forwards I guess and think here durrr that means bad? Pascal is an extremely good passer for a forward and a good spacer so my thoughts have always been that it should be the opposite, especially since Scottie is also a good passer.
-24 and +14
I just can’t understand how people are saying Jak is the answer. Have him come off the bench or in matchup situations or fucking trade him.
Trade him? Sure, depending on the return, but which other current Raptor would you try in his place as a starter? Gary hasn’t gotten it done yet, but his minutes may well go up if he breaks out of his slump. Precious certainly hasn’t been a viable alternative. Boucher? I love him in spots, but he can’t be expected to be a first-team guy. So far, Yak has been the answer because we haven’t had a better one.
The Scottie/Pascal mins trend similarly dating back to last year and year prior. Scottie tends to perform better when Pascal is on the court.