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  • The most recent trade up in the draft after the top 2 QBs were selected was last draft, when Houston traded the 12th pick, the 33rd pick, a future 1st, and a future 3rd for the 3rd pick and a 4th round pick, all for DE Will Anderson. You could argue that the 33rd pick (a high 2nd rounder) + swapping a 3rd rounder for a 4th rounder is equal value to a late 1st round pick, so the Texans essentially gave up 2 additional 1st round picks to move up.

    Also in recent history the Niners vaulted from 12 to 3 for 2 additional 1st round picks and a 3rd rounder, taking QB3 Trey Lance after Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson came off the board.

    So if we’re picking outside the top 10, and a clear QB3 emerges who’ll be a top 5 pick, we’d have to find a trade partner in the 3-5 range, and we’d have to give up at least 2 future 1st round picks (or equal value) to move up that high. That’s a big ask. Granted, it’s conjecture that a QB3 (Daniels, Penix, Nix, etc.) will rise that high and be drafted that early, but I still think it’s worth gaming out the possibility. This time last year I never would’ve thought Anthony Richardson would be the 4th overall pick.


  • Making the postseason and playing in a playoff game is incredibly valuable experience for a team chalk full of guys who haven’t done a thing in the NFL. The last time we made the playoffs, Calvin Ridley was still at Bama. Mainstays like Chris Lindstrom and AJ Terrell have never sniffed the playoffs. Even if we get blown out, playing in the playoffs would be a huge step forward for our players and our organization.





  • Ramblinwreck93BtoAtlanta Falcons@nfl.communityJayden to atl
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    The book on Lamar was he was a 1 of 1 athlete with an insanely strong arm, but he had accuracy issues, never completing more than 59% of his passes, and he didn’t play in a pro style offense. He sprayed so many balls and was so 1-note with his passing that teams questioned whether or not he was a QB at all.

    Jayden Daniels, on the other hand, is a very good athlete, but not on Lamar’s level. For Daniels, it’s not a question of whether or not he can run a pro style offense, because he’s running one right now, but it’s a question of how he runs the offense, and can he keep an offense “on schedule.” Daniels is also a much more natural thrower of the football than Lamar, but he doesn’t have Lamar’s flick the wrist and it goes 60 yards arm strength.

    I’d say RG3 is a better pro comp for Daniels than Lamar, though even that comp doesn’t feel quite right. RG3 at Baylor had less polished throwing mechanics than Daniels, and RG3 was more of a straight-line runner with some power, not a whole lot like Daniels’s elusiveness.


  • Ramblinwreck93BtoAtlanta Falcons@nfl.communityJayden to atl
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    I have my concerns, but he’s electric, no doubt about it. Of the 5 QBs likely to earn a lot of draft buzz in the coming months: Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, and Bo Nix, Daniels is the weakest processor out of the bunch. Lots of locking into 1 read and/or only reading half the field. Once he sees it, he throws a nice ball and throws with anticipation, but the slow processing can lead to him holding onto the ball for too long. He makes up for some of that with his elusiveness, but NFL pass rushes are a couple steps up from even the SEC, and Daniels’s skinny frame makes me nervous about him taking too many hits.

    In a draft full of conflicting, polarizing prospects, Daniels might end up being the most polarizing. I definitely see him as a high risk, high reward prospect at this point.





  • I’d lean no because there’s 2 big moving parts: meeting the Manders asking price in terms of draft compensation, and reaching an extension agreement with Sweat and his agent. Those factors, along with the high demand for pass rush help across the league, make it more likely that the answer is no than yes.

    Sweat does make a lot of sense for us though, and we have what we hope will be an extra Day 2 draft pick from the Ridley trade.

    In terms of asking price, I think the Manders will get a 2nd round pick or equivalent value for one of Sweat or Chase Young.



  • This kind of reach at 19 is why trading for a DE now, even if it costs some draft pick(s), isn’t crazy. Bralen Trice is a big, strong body and a good run-stopper, but his biggest weakness right now is pass rushing, especially if his initial bull rush doesn’t work.

    As for other prospects, guys like Dallas Turner and Chop Robinson are a little small for what we like, and Laiatu Latu has a scary injury history with his neck. Maybe Jared Verse will pop in the later half of the college football season, but ever since he put on weight to move from 250 lbs to 260, he’s been slow and (mostly) ineffective. Unless a lesser-known prospect emerges later in the process, I don’t see a slam dunk DE prospect sitting there waiting for us.

    If we can trade for a talented pass rusher who fits our system, like Danielle Hunter, Montez Sweat, Chase Young, etc., and then sign him to an extension, I’d do it. It really seems like we’re a premiere pass rusher away from being a big boy defense.