Hook combo is the only thing this character had going for it. I’m not a fan of when they just completely nuke a characters identity. Same thing with zen discord, zen has been trash for a long time why mess with the whole reason to pick the character. Next up is probably anti nade and again yeah it’s strong but why else are you picking Ana? Yeah I’m in metal ranks, but balancing the game off of the top 2000 players and streamer outcry is just dumb to me. Maybe make the 90% of players that keep the lights on a higher a priority, because at these levels of the game you miss hooks, you miss nades. Just because something is possible with incredible accuracy and precision doesn’t always trickle down to the largest majority of play the game has.

  • JMLMasterB
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    1 year ago

    Why else am I picking Ana besides the anti?

    • The sleep dart
    • The no-damage-fall-off
    • The ult canceling
    • The Full distance healing
    • Group healing
    • Nano’ing my team (you know, like a support does)
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    1 year ago

    Nah. Hog one shot was way too OP and super easy to pull off. Even if you missed, oh well, heal yourself and try again. I’m shocked this was all they could come up with for a re-work though. Blizzard has no idea what to do with their off tanks.

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    1 year ago

    Shut up… pls also zens been very good before discord nerf and he got up buff, and I will not listen to hog apologists

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    1 year ago

    The culprit is yet again 5v5 so many problems would be fix3d if they went back to 6v6

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    I’ve been saying this, not just because I’m a roadhog main, but because he didn’t need it. Supports just like to cry about every character that is more powerful than them. Which is why supports are so strong at the moment.

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    1 year ago

    You understand nade has splash right? At least 8 out of 10 times, I don’t think the average player misses nade. Sure they might use nade on the wrong person, but tanks are huge and if you nade a tank they give up space. In 5v5 Ana nade is too strong.

    I do agree though, the old hog was just fine, he already had many counters. He was only unkillable because of kiriko. Supports ruin the game’s balance and the devs will never acknowledge that. We’ve reached a point where supports carry most games instead of the main tank lol

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    1 year ago

    Y’all must have short memories of you don’t remember how miserable the initial hog meta was in the earlier seasons

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    1 year ago

    Idk man, he’s one of my favorites and I don’t feel he lost his identity, just that he’s way harder to kill now and throw a weird junkrat trap into the floor (which he mentioned in his voice lines for years now).

    Also he is much harder to kill now which might be related to the next BP with the Mauga + Ashe burning combos since as an Ashe main I have to currently hit a lot of headshots + burning to kill him now and he can 1 shot me.

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    1 year ago

    I disagree. Though the hook was less of a problem, his high survivability was.

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      1 year ago

      because ana players hadn’t proliferated ranked by S1 and S2. It was from S4 that Ana & Zen started re-emerging consistently in almost every ranked match.

      Part of the reason is I guess new players didn’t know enough to play Ana and Mercy/Kiriko (healbot version) were easier picks for new players.

      Hog was super strong in S1 and S2, not because he’s actually strong but because newbie supports had no idea to deal with him and at higher ranks Kiriko’s lower cleanse cooldown helped matters.

      The moment Ana became mainstream again from S4 it was over for Hog. Even me who is total garbage at Ana could climb to Plat in less than a week just by spamming anti-heal. It’s so fking broken it’s not even funny.

      Also note, the top 10-20 tanks (from what I remember) were still Zarya (S1) and D.Va (S2). Hog players weren’t at the top 10.

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    1 year ago

    Zen is super oppressive in ranked. If they infact only cared about pro-play they wouldn’t have touched Zen, but it’s because Zen was terrorizing tanks (and still kinda does tbh) in ranked is the reason why he had to be nerfed. And i am GLAD they did. Now Zen players actually have to use braincells instead of mindlessly putting discord on tank everytime.

    What I don’t understand is why his sidekick Ana whose abilities are even more egregious hasn’t been nerfed yet. She should be nerfed harder.