The current Turbo S E-Hybrid is now the upcoming Turbo E-Hybrid. Eventually, the top one will return and be 700 hp+ easy
It’s going to happen with the 911 too. We are at an end of the ICE age (no pun intended) so get them before they get electrified either as a hybrid or full electric.
My brother was supposed to get one of the Panamera Turbo S Sport Turismo but the pandemic really screwed us over on that end. Dealer kept trying to get us to switch us to a GTS Sport Turismo instead because no allocations were coming.
We ended up getting a 2023 AMG GT63 S instead. The week after our car got delivered, we found out that US order books were closed, there’d be no more non-hybrid GT63 S coming and ours was the one of the last allocations for those.
Every time I see this car I always think back to that Top Gear episode and how Jeremy Clarkson was right. It is hideous looking, and despite efforts to make it more aggressive, it still looks like a swollen, tumoerous amphibian.
But the big news is the optional-for-hybrid-models Porsche Active Ride, a fully active system with a motor pump unit at each corner of the car that pumps fluid in and out of the damper. This allows Porsche to put force into the suspension, and so the Active Ride dampers are charged with controlling pitch, dive, roll, and ride height in addition to their normal duties. When set to Normal mode, there’s a driver-selectable setting for Active Ride that reduces pitch and dive to almost nothing, and another mode which has the car lean into the corners, like a motorcycle.
Porsche’s “Active Ride” sounds just like Mercedes “Active Body Control”. Even the lean into corners function is already a feature of some Mercedes ABC cars that Mercedes calls “Active Curve Tilting”.
As of the time of my comment, you’re the only person in this thread discussing the actual car. Everyone else is just talking about the styling. I agree the system sounds just like Mercedes’. One thing that stood out to me is that the air suspension is only 2 chamber. The second generation Panamera was co-developed with the current Bentley Continental GT and Flying Spur, and both of those use 3 chamber air suspension, so I’d have expected the Panamera to use the same system. But Active Ride should go a long way toward increasing the comfort.
Did you really expect them to do something on their own? They are the Apple of the car world, copying BMW and Mercedes for decades and selling it for three times the price.
Whenever they do something unique, it ends up worse than the competitors see 911.
I don’t know if you’re trolling or what, but I think perhaps you mistook my comment for a diss at Porsche. But that wasn’t my intention, I was just making an observation. Your criticism of Porsche for using another company’s technology is just bizarre.
What an asinine comment.
The real news is that a new green shade just dropped: available in “Oak Green Metallic Neo.”
Yuck.
“pOrSChE nEEdS tO rEDesiGN thEiR cArS mOrE oFTeN1!!1!1”
Porsche when they redesign their cars:
But all jokes aside what the fuck. Porsche should know how to redesign a car better. Not this ugly thing.
Rare modern Porsche design L :/
Wow. I would have put money that this would not have seen a third gen.
It’s not explained in this article, but the suspension sounds wild. Historically, when you accelerate hard, the nose lifts. And when you brake hard, the nose dips. Not with PAR. When you accelerate, the rear suspension raises to keep the car flat. Braking results in the front suspension being raised.
Yeah that’s really cool. It’s an adaptive anti-roll system for pitch.
The headlights are too big or too tall or something. It looks worse than the previous gen.
100k base MSRP lmfaooooo
Fuck this company so much, man. Our then-new 2014 base panamera was 74k out the door, and they even let us flip a coin (literally) over terms
Doug and his influencer friends ruined porsche, its such a hypebeast brand now
100k base MSRP lmfaooooo
BMW 7 series starts at $97K. The 8 series gran coupe starts at $91K. The S-class starts at $117K. The AMG GT 4 door starts at $100K. The Audi A8 starts at $89K. The S8 starts at $120K. The S7 starts at $84.5K and the RS7 starts at $130K. The Panamera sounds perfectly in line with its competitors.
Our then-new 2014 base panamera was 74k out the door
$74,000 in 2014 is $97,000 today. With options this is probably $115K which would’ve been $87K in 2014. For comparison, my BMW 640i convertible was optioned to $90K in 2013. It sounds like you just got a great deal.
It sounds like you just got a great deal, which the coin flip for terms further suggests.
Yeah, it was back when porsche riverside was desperate to move cars