I’ve been to multiple steeler games, including games against all 3 of our rivals, many of which we lost, and have never seen an “incident” that is anything other than like playful jabs

Just be ready to take a joke and you’ll be fine. We are generally pretty relaxed towards opposing fans

Philly however, I’d bring a riot shield

I think both have HOF worthy resumes

But, the HOF only votes on 5 players each year (I think), and competition is pretty tough. I think they consider Julius Peppers and Antonio Gates for sure, probably Dwight Freeney, and I think Patrick Willis as well. There’s also a shitton of great WRs on the docket like Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith Sr, and Torry Holt. I don’t think Hines leapfrogs these dudes for spot #5, Deebo might but also a lot of those guys were pretty great. Just a tough year for it

I think my big takeaway is that the offense looked so much better but it wasn’t that the players themselves played all that much better, or even that the core philosophy of the offense changed. Canada was just that bad of a play caller

Kenny played well but still made some of the same mistakes he has been making. Missing a couple open dudes, some inaccuracies particularly to GP, some aggravating decisions like throwing a screen pass for a 5 yard loss to Warren, and still not finding the end zone. What’s more is that the line didn’t ever seem to give Kenny a ton of time to work, and only one of our running backs seemed to be able to get anything going. It was honestly a lot of the same shit, right down to a DJ dropped TD

But just changing the play caller and doing things people have been begging them to do all season brought all the life to this offense. Using the middle of the field. Incorporating deep shots here and there to keep defenses honest. Being aggressive on early downs, and avoiding 3rd and long; we had 17 3rd downs (!!) but only 9 of them were >7 yards, and we went 5/8 on the ones that were less than that. It’s common sense football

Or, he’s the one who leaked it

Probably, but we are putting him a better position to succeed without Canada than with him

I actually think Kenny does turn into Brady this weekend. He will just then resume being Kenny Pickett in the weeks afterward

Whatever

It’s not going to fix everything. But it will fix something and I’ll take that. As many will likely point out we very rarely fire coordinators mid season. I see this as a commitment from the team to fix an issue and try to be better instead of being complacent with mediocrity. I’ll take that

Damn that’s short sighted. You don’t want to even give the great Ben McAdoo coaching tree a chance?

I’ll see your “correlation does not mean causation” and counter with a “an outlier mean an exception, not the rule”

I also just think generally you’re missing the point about the 400 yards argument. It’s not a “goal” as much as it’s a very prominent talking point about how our offense is… bad. Like 26th in the NFL in points per game both this year and last year bad

Edit: I just realized you cherry picked a game from over 20 years ago to make this argument lmao

This year feels dumb enough that this would be the time that Tomlin wins a playoff game and the haters shut up (for a little bit)

Idk I think if I were Tomlin I’d just stop winning now so I can say I have one 69

Yes good thing we are on r/Steelers where people are more intelligent

But we should because our winning means other teams lose

We should all be rooting for 0-0-17 each season. And that all players have fun

Fairly certain those parties are seeing the same critical eye lol

There were “Fire Canada” chants at fucking Pens games

Tomlin did something very similar when AB started skipping practices towards the end of the 2019 season. We didn’t have someone better then, and it was a must win game. Still be ched

I know but that’s fine coming from you, as a fan. Fans are supposed to complain about the team not doing well

Players have to be careful. Chuks advocating to give up is much worse than you or I doing it.

I said in another thread that this whole situation felt bizarre because the only other instance of Tomlin benching a player due to conduct was AB in week 17 2019. It’s notable that he did that then, and now, but didn’t do so when, for example, Pickens was bitching on social media, or when Ben was airing his various grievances about his teammates on a radio show, or even with ABs other insane off the field comments and issues

The clear theme with Chuks and the eventual AB benching is that it was an attitude that showed that the player didn’t care about winning the game. Tomlin will let players like George get angry, be publicly upset, but at the end of the day he’s still here to win so it’s ok. Chuks and AB crossed that line

Yeah this whole thing is kinda bizarre.

Tomlin doesn’t really have a long history of being a hard ass. Good example just happened with Pickens and Tomlin says and does nothing (publically), but some mystery thing with Chuks is supposedly so bad that he’s getting benched? What could he have possibly said?

The only time I can think of when Tomlin actually benched a player as punishment for their conduct was AB in a must win game vs the Bengals. I want to say it can’t be that bad but also I have no other examples of Tomlin doing this

Yikes lmao did you use to date George Pickens?

No. Not at all

I know LOTS of steelers fans. My extended family all hails from western PA and excluding a few black sheep Eagles fans, all of them support the steelers. Always something to bond over during thanksgiving and christmas

We usually go to at least one game each year. We still have friends in Pittsburgh that take us to tailgates. The game day environment is amazing and welcoming, even on bad days. Whole thing is just, very very fun.

This sub is where I get most of my steelers content and quite frankly, no one here is fun. Everyone here is angry and argumentative and unable to hear out others opinions. And I say “everyone” but its basically 6-7 power users that enter every thread to just yell their opinions at everyone. Its draining and its kinda why I go through cycles of spending time here, right now im on a lot but a lot of times I just need a break

Theres something about reddit in general where most of the commenters are obsessed with being the smartest people in the room and are often extremely arrogant about it, but truthfully most of the people on this website are pretty fucking stupid. Mind you, my friends and family can be too, but they arent so arrogant to think they have all the answers