I main rein and I think he’s the most fun character in the game. I especially love rein vs rein however I haven’t played I rein mirror in like two seasons and I feel like every game I play as rein I have to play out of my mind to win. He’s just in a bad state right now. Does anyone think he will get some fat buffs next season?
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Rein doesn’t need a buff, he just needs a meta shift.
I think the problem is that Rein has a high wr in all elos but only because he’s mostly used as a shield bot in higher elos. He puts his 1400 hp shield up while his Sojourn/Soldier/Widow pops off so it’s just boring. He’s basically like Mercy. Holding right click to enable his dps for most of the game. His shield is actually surprisingly hard to destroy. Unless you have a Bastion, it takes 8-10 seconds to destroy it with multiple people shooting, and that’s 8-10 seconds where you’re in LOS of his dps.
So yeah, in a lot of games, you feel like you didn’t do much as Rein even when you did. That’s why most people would rather play Sigma, Doom, Orisa or Zarya. Because they can dominate more often instead of getting carried.
Unless you have a Bastion, it takes 8-10 seconds to destroy it with multiple people shooting, and that’s 8-10 seconds where you’re in LOS of his dps.
This is exactly why pure buffs with no compensation nerfs would be a bad idea.
I think a lot of people see that charging in whenever shift is off cooldown leads to you exploding, and assume Rein is bad for that- while ignoring he has effectively another 1400 HP with no headshot hitbox to whittle down before you can truly kill him. An ulting Winston with nano only has an effective 1500 hp, and Rein has almost that much on just his barrier.
I think they would better nerf other tanks like sigma, orisa, zarya and hog (maybe dva), so rein will become more viable, as well as other tanks
rein highest winrates
no i hope they nerf his shield
The real problem is Bastion, Junk, Mei, and support healing being way too much
I doubt it. The only buff I could see is DR on pin. He becomes too good when his health gets buffed, but he can’t get close without it. He’s very hard to balance in 5v5
I think a buff to his pin damage from 225->250 would be good and not too OP
He’s just in a bad state right now.
Not really? Most people agree hes actually above average out of tanks right now- I mean, his thicc armor and 1400 barrier is a great counter to absurd burst damage in the game right now. I know Reinhardt players talk about shield melting fast, but keep in mind thats still 1400 points of damage your team *didnt* take.
“Fat” buffs especially would be a bad idea- Rein being made too much better makes him way too quickly outpace every other tank in the game.
And frankly, unpopular as it may be to say around here… I disagree with the notion Rein is some perfectly designed tank and that “Rein metas are always the most fun”. True Rein metas are just as annoying as when any other single tank is the “true” meta, and while Im one of only 4 tank mains who says this, I actuallyt dont like playing as Rein every game personally.
I am convinced that the problem isnt rein its reins playstyle. I have games where i basically just hold shield and die and my team just wins the fight.
Rein used to be a character that brough value by swinging into the enemy but now he brings value by eating all the damage and staying alive… It works. He gets the win. But its boring af.
Took me from Bronze to plat. I’m cool with him
He doesn’t need a buff. His cheesy counters just need to be nerfed aka bastion and Mei wall.
Probably nerfs to other characters so he is indirectly stronger (even I don’t see this happening because they barely make deserving character nerfs impactful).
If they do want to buff Rein directly, I think removing the movement penalty while his shield is up would be nice. I don’t see a reason for it to exist when DPS can do enough damage most of the time to destroy it and punish bad positioning. Some might also realize they can directly walk up to the dude and shoot inbetween him and his shield.