Thousands of purveyors of neo-Nazi tunes just had their day ruined by a crew of enterprising Scandinavian anti-fascists.
In the Spirit of Musk‘s and other fascist‘s idea of free speech, here is the searchable database: https://midgard.antifa.se/register/
Oh wow it has room for social insurance numbers now that’s what I call doxxing
Dang. Already needs a mirror. Won’t load after only a few hours.
Thank you.
I love that some of these idiots used their work email addresses. I wonder if Full Care landscaping out of Louisville, Kentucky cares that their VP of Operations is a neo-nazi?
Their customers might! Though it is Kentucky…
It might get them more customers.
“Show a swastika and enjoy 15% off your purchase.”
Of course they do, why do you think they made him VP?
At least one danish politician used his parliament email address to purchase stuff from them.
Ha, good!
Too bad you can’t see who downvoted you, too… Need that leaked, as well.
You can. Sort of.
Lemmy does not provide it via the UI. But it does provide the info via federation. If you set up your own instance, other instances will happily share this info with you. The information is inconvenient to access, but not hidden or private.
Hey fascist lurkers: fuck everything about your fascist ideology. Stop being slaves to your overlords and fucking learn a thing.
You can think for yourselves, I promise. It may be hard and uncomfortable at first, but you’ll like yourself a lot more if you just put in a small bit of effort. You’re better than this.
If you look at the modlog I thought it was visible there.
Just shows what cowards Nazis are. Hide behind downvotes, never explain yourself.
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Someday
In kbin.social you can see that
First thing I’ve ever heard about kbin.social that sounded like a positive to me.
Kbin also lets you follow specific users. The lemmy devs actively don’t want lemmy to be able to do that and I don’t understand why
Likely to not trigger the toxic social network elements that Twitter and Instagram have had?
Does it also let you disable anyone from following you as a user pref?
No.
Personally I like the UI better on mobile.
I’m pretty happy wit Voyager on iPhone. :)
Except the (1 reply) it cannot show for whatever reason.
I thought Voyager stopped updating?
Hello from kbin. It’s nice over here.
What’s the scoop on cookies over there? Not web cookies, but the yummy cookies full of sugar.
kbin.social is far and away less toxic than lemmy.world, probably because of the smaller community.
Only from kbin.social users for now.
Man, far right websites all seem to have shit infosec as a common thread along with racism and other assorted bigotry.
This is because all the infosec professionals are left-wing furries. We run the Internet. You cannot escape us, you cannot out-hack us.
meow meow
UwU
Thank you for your service. Do you take skritches for payment?
As soon as I finish my degree lol.
Good fluff🥰
Hmmm. I blocked the yiffit instance and yet this comment is not hidden…
Also not kink shaming but it was every other goddamn post on All
shows up as pawb instance for me
This is pawb.social, not all furries are pervs…
Did someone say SiegedSec?
Anti-intellectual people being incompetent? Say it ain’t so!
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There’s actually a simple explanation for that. Much like the “conservative/christian entertainment” industry the alt-tech movement is primarily composed of failures and hacks who couldn’t cut it in the mainstream field.
A smart racist is an oxymoron.
This includes their knowledge about security.
A smart racist would have to be stupid in such a specific kind of way that it would be like a zyzygy of all the stars in the sky aligning at the same time.
Syzygy - a roughly straight-line configuration of three or more celestial bodies in a gravitational system.
Thanks for the new word!
Pleasure! It’s a really cool word
Exploit that and out then as the shit-stains they are.
All websites have shit infosec. It’s not a problem confined to the far right.
I’ve blocked all the nazis trying to engage with me saying nazis aren’t bad so I’ll just say this in a TLC and block more nazis when they reply -
It’s funny that all the people calling ME evil for not considering the nuances of various people’s nazi ideology… Are the same people who think women should die for wearing jeans, and that people should die for having a different religion, or die for not sharing a skin tone…
Nazis are nazis are nazis. If your world view was so different, spoilers, you wouldn’t identify with nazis. 🤷
FUCK NAZIS.
Your right to not tolerate intolerance.
There are people siding with Nazis and reporting this post for doxxing, lol
So wild that this is a hot take these days
Make Nazis Windchimes Again.
I like you!
I like you, buddy.
Also, just to see if they have even the tiniest bit of plausible deniability, I checked out Midgard’s shop. There’s overtly white supremacist shit ALL OVER the place.
It’s not like these people accidentally supported a band with reprehensible beliefs behind the scenes. It’s not like a totally normal music shop turned out to be a front for white supremacists. There’s note even any serious argument about “separating art from the artist.” The leak includes what people bought, and you can tell when someone bought overtly white supremacist music. And even if they didn’t, and the band or album name doesn’t give anything away, what’s it doing at the Nazi store? Why isn’t it streaming, or on Bandcamp, or self-distributed? These customers still had to know there’s an obscure Nazis music store, what it’s called and where to find it, confirm that it’s a Nazi store the moment they went there, and still give them money and their address to place a mail order. Oh, some of them aren’t native English speakers? Then that just makes it even more damning that they did all this with a language barrier in place!
Plus, just look at the apologists in this thread. They’re fucking cowards. They can’t just come out with their beliefs, so they’re just asking questions, deflecting from the topic. One is concern trolling for the fundamental humanity of literal Nazis, despite the fact that the main fucking problem with Nazis is that they considered marginalized groups subhuman. Where’s the concern there? Why the focus on the people who oppose Nazis rather than the Nazis themselves? Another one could barely resist giving the game away by saying they’ve been called a Nazi before because of their anti-immigrant positions.
The people defending this shop and its customers aren’t serious people. They’re dishonest, cowardly, and stupid.
I would advise to call them Neo-Nazis instead of Nazis. Most Nazis are dead and Neo-Nazis are given too much distraction by giving them this easy excuse.
That’s such a stupid fucking argument to nit pick it’s almost absurd.
Nazis is as Nazis does. Adding a prefix changes nothing.
You’re relativising Nazis this way and are also making it way too easy to not take you serious.
oh no, the fucking Nazis don’t take us seriously, we’re so screwed
-nobody
Says the dude downplaying titles.
You remind me of one of my friends who uses the word nazi so much it’s basically lost all its weight
Imagine getting mad at someone saying Nazis are bad. I wouldn’t be caught dead getting upset that someone was saying Nazis are bad, lmao
What annoys me is throwing the word around like it’s nothing, dude calls pretty much anyone a nazi lol
For example, I was called a nazi for saying maybe Canada is taking too many immigrants at once
Depends entirely on the context. Framed like that? Probably not a Nazi, but I wouldn’t dare make judgement without knowing what actually transpired.
Might be a hot take, but the idea that the word “Nazi” is thrown around like it’s nothing is actually overblown, and usually it’s correctly thrown.
Maybe my friends are dumb but the far left ones love using the word whenever possible
Usually the far left calls everyone a liberal, it’s liberals that call conservatives Nazis. The far left usually calls actual fascists Nazis.
Yeah I’m economically far left but socially I lean a little further right, which has gotten me called a nazi before, which is ridiculous if you actually know me haha
You remind me of apologists who argue somebody can’t be a nazi even though they spout the ideology and use the language, because they aren’t on record saying “I heart Hitler” three times in a mirror.
I dunno someone called me a nazi recently at my university for wearing a burzum shirt for example lol
Word is definitely getting thrown around a lot these days
It’s not coincidence, there’s alot more nazis running around on some nazi shit. By the way in case you didn’t know, while I don’t recall it coming up in the music (I have a Burzum CD around here somewhere) but - Burzum/Varg was increasingly on some nazi/white nationalist shit, so it’s not some “fuckin LiBrUlZ” conspiracy to call everybody a nazi, you were just wearing a shirt associated with nazi shit. 🤷
I know who varg is. It’s impossible to listen to black metal and entirely avoid this kind of thing. I was wearing a hvis lyset tar oss shirt, there are no such themes on the album, and I bought the shirt way before varg went full nazi on YouTube (it’s counterfeit anyway so he got nothing from me)
The only black metal I avoid are ones where nazi themes are explicitly in the lyrics
Do digging on the people behind any black metal band and you’ll probably find something similar, it’s extreme music made by extreme people
You’re missing the point - you weren’t called a nazi cause you were wearing a sccarryy black metal tee. You were called a nazi for wearing a nazi’s tee.
Whatevs, you’ve made it abundantly clear that you’re being intentionally obtuse in defense of nazis so I’m over it. Bye Felicia.
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Nazis are obviously bad, but this comment makes me think that anyone you don’t like/like their comments/replies, you consider a Nazi?
I think people who defend nazis, their right to believe in nazi ideology, and argue that nazis are overall fine people are nazis or nazi apologists which are equally unwelcome in my circles and consciousness. Sorry, I’m not going to feel bad for hurting nazi feelings.
You can reply to this and “um actually” all you want about nazis, but if you’re pro-nazi, I’m gonna block you. Easy peasy.
Gotta do my part and never block anybody so I can advocate for e.g. defederating nazinstances.
It ain’t much, but…
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What a strange and leading question.
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I’m confused by the whole comment line. Do I seem like I’m outraging, or have any strong opinions any way that needs to be clarified?
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It’s an irrelevant question leading into a off topic point that you’d like to make. If you’d like to deliver a point, go ahead and comment it. Not my job to try and land your point for you though.
Per Capita, in total, Per capita per year, or total per year? Each of these 4 types has a different answer, and the Nazis were higher in nearly every metric of slaughter.
The US is bad. The US has never been fully fascist, despite flirting with it. Nazi Germany was perhaps the most evil and oppressive country to ever exist in history, and certainly was for the 20th century.
What exactly is your point? Nazis are bad, but so is the US? I don’t think too many people on Lemmy are fans of the US, but to insinuate that the Nazis are somehow more palatable by being compared to the US is absurd.
Even without defining those parameters, I also thought it was sort of strange to compare a political party vs country.
It’s all strange. What’s the point? “Hmmm, you think Nazis are bad? Have you considered that other countries are bad but significantly less bad? Checkmate!” It’s just terminally online.
Oh yeah, at it’s root, it was already bad.
I’m always interested in a decent discussion or thought experiment though, even if I completely disagree with the other person. 99% are so lazy nowadays it’s not even interesting reading their copy/paste comments that have been recycled for the last decade
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Odd to call it “winning,” but the answer is “historical total.” The US has murdered tens of millions more over its several hundred year history than Nazi Germany killed in the less than half a century it existed.
It isn’t sanity to pretend that hundreds of years of brutal history are equally comparable to an extremely condensed period of the single most brutal country to exist in modern history. Nazism is far more evil than liberalism, even if liberalism is still inevitably evil.
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I’ll make it simple for you: Nazis are bad.
Nazis love dehumanizing people
Bunch of drones
Go on and tell us how much better you are than a Nazi.
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Nazi is a subclassification of humans, it actually does the opposite of dehumanizing by more thoroughly defining the human/humanity relationship.
But if me saying “fuck Nazis” gets you riled up so be it 🫡
If the bar for being a Nazi is merely killing people many of us would be Nazis. Personally I think nazihood has more to do with a wish to genocide (the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.).
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So maybe it’s the politicians and the rich guys that we should be looking at.
You don’t need money or power to be a deadbeat fucking Nazi.
This is the kind of doxxing I can get behind.
I found another one by posting this to Facebook
“Just because you listen to them doesn’t make you a neo nazi! Free speech is dead!”
- HitlerFan1488 with a roman statue avatar
There are legitimately people here arguing that just because you don’t understand the language, you probably aren’t a fascist for liking clearly fascist music that you have to work hard to find, especially if you don’t natively speak the language.
Come back after you type “Finnish metal” into youtube search bar, find a pretty good melodic powermetal song. It’s stuck in your head for days, so you download an entire album. You start to hum along as you listen, but it’s not enough. You find the lyrics in a language you never have spoken before, so you learn it phonetically. You share your discovery with friends and family. It’s fun AND educational! But that’s not enough, you often wonder what it all means, so one day as you listen, you open a new tab, type in “Terasbetoni - Orjatar, translated lyrics” to find…
This
Slave woman
Hard was the work in the midst of woods, Wearing the axe and play on the shoulders, heart burning with desire, Yearning will make you go through the snow, Knowledge of what shall become keeps you strong!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
There shall be battles in the fields of death. On stake is the life in disastrous times! Man with an ardor shall get what he deserves, So please and serve, or he shall punish you!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
Slave woman! Come to me, And work your magic! Slave woman! Heed my words, For that is your law!
Slave woman! Obey my quest, Know your place! Slave woman! Work my will, And you shall be rewarded! Divinely rewarded!
Individually? Possible, totally. In aggregate? It’s not a secret that Japan has an uncomfortably large fascist subculture. Putting 2 and 2 together as an aggregate makes sense.
Of course, I wouldn’t go up and assume a random Japanese person listening to fascist northern European metal is necessarily a fascist, but if they also had the rising sun flag of Imperial Japan on their car, or hanging in their room? Absolutely.
Totally. The subtlety is, thankfully, not a virtue most fascists are known for.
Now, this band were a parody of 80’s Manowar. They are as far from nazis as you can go…
Manowar had that one song titled ‘Pleasure slave’, if memory serves. No idea if it was a serious song or not. Those were some weird times for music.
And had the the best bands :)
Maybe they just vibe with hate and the fascist imagery is a comforting reminder of their favorite message boards? Just because the only music you listen too is made for Nazis doesn’t make you a Nazi. You being a Nazi means you enjoy Nazi music. Not exactly causation but nearly a one to one correlation. I don’t know what I meant by this. I started with a joke and now I’m just arguing logic semantics. This is a mess. I’m sorry, hitting post anyway though.
Hahaha, I gotchu. On an individual basis, it’s totally possible that a Japanese person may genuinely stumble upon it and like it purely for the tunes. At an aggregate, it becomes increasingly obvious that there are tendencies that lead people out of traditionally popular Japanese music and into obscure northern European Nazi music.
First you just Luke the music, soon you’re hanging out with other fans, and suddenly you discover one day that you have become a #nazi.
I was listening to a podcast that suggested the main reason the Nazis wanted to kill Jews is because they felt that the rise of Christianity, originating among the Jews, was what weakened the Roman Empire and caused it to crumble.
For their own empire, modeled along Roman lines, they didn’t want the same thing to happen.
ehh… I see a lot of ‘the nazis were pagan not christian’ apologism; their belt buckles say otherwise. the vast majorities were church going christians who had wildly varying records on which sects participated in persecution but overall none stepped up to stop the state’s genocide, so like catholics, they can protest but I’m not convinced.
Hitler hated Christianity for its worship of meekness, weakness, a dead man, etc, but used it very well politically. Nazi leadership ranged from full on Christians to pagan weirdos. Jews were associated with Bolshevism, and their hard antibolshevim especially appealed to people who had emigrated to the Weimar Republic during the Russian revolution. Communism and unions were the first targets and how they wedged themselves in to power in the first place. Hitlers first major political victory was the concordat with the Roman Catholic church, promising freedom of religion. In the late 30s Catholic pulpits were ordered to recite a condemnation of Hitler for betraying the concordat. The Nazis implemented a Christian denomination and sent pastors and priests who didn’t comply (many did of course) to the camps. One of these was the famous poet who wrote the “first they came” poem, at first a Hitler supporter who recanted when it was too late, like many of them.
They had all kinds of weird views about Aryans, a very fluid and subjective category in practice, and the history of Aryans. There were archeologists tasked with digging up the magnificent history of the Aryan race etc. Some people like Japanese were honorary Aryans etc. Down to weird specific traits of people based on the false premise of race being a real thing.
Replace Jewish people with like Templars or something and I’d read this trashy historical fiction
Maybe all of these people were just buying gifts for their neonazi friends and family
Have fun doxing your local Nazi
Scary. The one I found from my city is a medical doctor with a good reputation. Fucking Nazis hiding good.
Fucking yikes, imagine if that were your doctor
Just found six people in my city. Now how I’m spending my day now.
The one from my home town wound up in prison for 4th degree arson. Burned down his own house by accident.
Second guy I’m looking up has already been doxed by some racist-metal site bitching that he was selling pirated copies of their CDs on eBay.
Good to remember the enemy of your enemy isn’t always your friend. Sometimes it’s best to sit back and enjoy their self destructive little happenings
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. Nothing more and nothing less.
What are the legal implications of doxxing a person here? I can think of a few people I’d like to slap on that list, but it doesn’t seem risk free for me.
Fucking with nazis is never risk free, but not fucking with them is much riskier
I searched, and surprisingly none within 50 miles of me.
Congratulations! This is only a directory of nazi punks and edgelord book clubs, really. Don’t get complacent, vote.
The Nazis poofing into inexistence as you vote:
Nazis and white supremacists get a footing in government because they organize and vote. If the general population gets complacent and doesn’t vote then nazis poof into seats of power and influence. So what are you trying to say here?
I found two from my city. Kind of sickening to know that these creatures are in my vicinity
I found one a couple houses down the street. Thank fuck I’m moving already.
A few in my small city but can’t find anything about them
Woot! Naming and shaming is great!
The only good nazi is a dead nazi. Gotta love how tech illiterate fascists are.
Shhh, Don’t let them in on the secret.
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And then when they came for you… joking no one intolerant enough to come for someone else was left.
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When they didn’t come for neo-nazis, neo-nazis came for you.
I don’t know shit about this band/this type of music… is it actually the kind of music that only Nazis would listen to?
Like, if someone leaked a Pantera fan list, I guess I wouldn’t be on the wagon to ruin all their lives, even though Pantera is pretty well known for racism, shouting White Power and Nazi sautes n shit.
if you didn’t know about Pantera
Such a fucking shame learning about great music being made by terrible folks. Sooooo many rockers with controversy, be it racism, underage groupie fucking, or otherwise.
Thankfully there’s no shortage of really talented people making awesome music these days. May need to dig around a bit, but my Spotify is an absolute labyrinth of more tunes than I can possibly get through. I’ve had to make annual playlists for every sub genre I’m into just to attempt to keep my archive manageable.
Yep. Lot of bands you’d like to support, to buy their music, later find out they are damn bigots, nazis, whatever asswipes you can find. Especially in the metal scene. Makes me sad
Extreme music is made by extreme people
This makes me incredibly sad.
Edit: seriously tho. I never wanted to believe the band members were racist or anything. The song Rise was always my go to to show people how inclusive they wanted to be. “Taught when we’re young to hate one another, it’s time to have a new reign of power. Make pride universal so no one gives in, turn out backs on those who oppose”
I always thought that song especially was saying “we must not hate one another. We must all be proud of who we are and turn our backs on those who continue to hate.” I may need to do some deeper thinking about it all. I have not listened to them in many years. Dimebag dying legit hurt.
Damn it. Why did you have to make me aware of this? :/ I love Pantera.
You think you have problems?!
I used to be a big Lostprophets fan… 😭
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The new No-Hire list just dropped.
Ya love to see it.
Did you have a follow up question or was my explanation of what doxxing is sufficient?
Why do you think nazis getting doxxed is a reason to report it? Are you under the impression we care about nazis being doxxed here?
According to the article, activists are already using the information to further their research. So, it’s not out of the question that innocent people’s information was released after buying material from this site for research. Doxxing is also not legal in every jurisdiction, which can lead to legal repercussions for the doxxer and the platform that hosts the information. It also encourages retaliation, which potentially puts the community at risk.
A report is just that, a report. I sent a heads up that this post contained doxxed information. If the mod team is not concerned by it, it’s obviously within your power to ignore my report. If you needed more information, it would have been easy to send a PM rather than trying to make some kind of statement by asking publicly.
