ADOT is just for the throws he made.

If the offense dials up a shot play and the defense plays it, and he checks it down

While I am big on criticizing Ben. We don’t have AJ Brown where we can just send it vs any 1 on 1 we get.

The scheme we have has plenty of depth and as we have added Jamo it should have more

So they have but haven’t.

Post Seattle game until about the raiders game they used jack in a role on early downs to be on the LoS to set the edge vs the run but on play action and passes he was in man coverage on the RB for any leak outs

He wasn’t really being asked to psss rush at all, but rather stop us from having Charles Harris getting isolated in man coverage on Tight ends or RBs off of early down play action, which if you recall Seattle did to Harris and James Houston and got big throws to the TE as a result.

I personally don’t like Jack as a pass rusher at all, I think his game is at Mike, but they haven’t actually tried it by any means yet

I mean there’s a lot that goes into coaching a football team. I get that we can’t do it

But also we have enough to know what good coaching and bad coaching looks like

MNF what the eagles did to disguise cover 2 and drop defenders and really confuse Jalen at both intermediate levels and deep coverage shells was impressive. Also consider the elements made it difficult

And while the lions do “disguise” things it usually just a safety rotation and not creative. Also we will rotate safeties post snap from MOC to MOF and then just give up this

https://preview.redd.it/q73o0az04f2c1.jpeg?width=1457&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9979bb214780d6463f8852aacf4c685fde13088

Just no one within 10 yards of two receivers on early downs.

It’s awful

https://youtu.be/Vf9rML5A1X8?si=hn29qYJiVSo728H_

Here’s a good watch on how Tampa 2 essentially operates like cover 3

Not that I think you’re wrong

I personally don’t know if it solves the issue

GB beat us this week and there were about 4-5 times they just max protected and beat us with 2 receivers and a late releasing TE

2 receivers.

I think we need to make more of an effort to bracket WRs. Just stop the run and make them throw to not their favorite target in key downs.

Because rn our cover 3 is getting absolutely wrecked, quarters is wrecked and I think a large part is 1) Jerry jacobs is not a CB1, and 2) Kerby is not ready to cover centerfield as much as we think he is.

Sure.

No pressure. 2 sacks in 3 games, none today

Isolated Jerry in Watson multiple times

Sat in soft zone allowing underneath routes to pop open

No creativity or post snap rotations to fool the QB

We give up TDs on the first two drives and there was one third down on those drives

Green Bay won the toss and took the ball because they knew they would score 7. Teams have abandoned running and just sling it vs.

Three straight weeks jerry is caught with his pants down 1 on 1 vs WR1. Post route to Allen, post route to DJ moore, and slot go vs Watson

This is all pressuring the offense to feel like they have to play a game of 7s. And be ultra aggressive on 4th down

Only QB even close to MVP caliber rn is Stroud

Give it to Hill or Garrett

Stats require context.

Sam Howell leads the league in yards, is he the top 3 QB in football right now?

No.

Against the few playoff teams we played we allowed 35+ points against them all.

The defense does force more turnovers than last year, and it is extremely good against the run

Yet on third down we struggle heavily to get off the field. Especially third and long.

Soft cushion corners, uninspiring pass rush, and blown coverages

We beat the buccaneers 20-6 but it might have been one of our worst defensive games, we gave up wide open routes everywhere. Baker just missed.

I’m not gonna lie, ya can’t play hindsight games on a playcall.

The zero blitzed forced a crazy underthrow and 7 just played it wrong. That’s not on the playcalling

And even with that play they still missed the first one, so again, not on the playcalling

That’s where I’m at. I think he gets credit for us being a really solid offense for as long as we have been.

That being said we have come out flat a few times and while we have a lot of creative plays in the book. Some of our standard reads and concepts could be better managed and executed

We lead the league in drop rate I believe and that’s excluding Jamo. We run a lot of screens with varying success. And outside of the occasional sideline lob to Reynolds we have little success with attacking opponents deep or atleast making them fear it.

It’s a worm kn progress. Worse problems to have for sure imo

I think we forgot the 20-25 mph winds from Sunday. I can forgive Goff for a rough game.

Show me where he ran the wrong route :)

Did you say the same when folks supported Goff through 2021? Or is it just cognitive bias this time because I watched the film and saw something different.

AG obsessed with cover 3. Barnes struggled with getting enough depth a few times. We won almost every man coverage rep except the TD to agholor and thats due to the 10 seconds to throw, not so much the coverage.

rough game.

theres plenty of late developers. Immediately Davante Adams comes to mind.

and i never said he was a god tier talent or ben isnt a god tier OC. i think they are both neither.

Ben is solid but i have my personal frustrations with the relentless screens, constant first down runs resulting in long 2nd downs. hes really solid but i do think his pass schemes arent too complex and really its 16 -> 14 thats saving it.

as for point 2, its not just Jamo, its also Gibbs who early in the year struggled to get these same kinds of touches. just not scheming up open space.

My big issue with kerbys play has been he’s struggling to get routed passes to him vertically. And this is how a lot of our defense has been.

Eyes in the backfield and getting nervous.

Two plays to watch.

1. the will Harris early INT vs the buccaneers. Kerby, the deep safety, gets caught on the PA and lrts Mike Evans run right by him. If Buggs doesn’t tip the ball it’s a 95 yard touchdown

2. maybe not so much kerbys fault but vs the ravens Lamar rolls right and Andrews releases and every level of the defense passes him off to the next and he ends up wide open

I think we are better in man coverage than cover 3. And we run a shit ton of cover 3.

Really just uninvolved.

They have him playing a lot of 1 high in cover 3 and he’s really just not showing the range from last year.

He hasn’t been awful but I feel that should CJGJ come back it will be Tracy, not Kerby that maintains starter reps